Saturday, September 30, 2006
Case# 4. MY OPINION OF ROSE DESROCHERS & I'M STICKING TO IT!!!
Readers, like the title reads, my opinion is voiced here, and I know others opinions differ than mine. (Found out it is very important to stipulate that it is my opinion.)The majority of my readers know that Rose Desrochers is very upset with me (probably with good reason, as the rest of the blog will show) and she whines and complains on her blogs and other sites (and comments) that I am trying to discredit her. Well, if the truth be known, she seems to be doing that all by herself, along with a little help from her friends, and what I am doing is pointing out facts that are researched, as well as my own personal opinions. (anyone is more than welcome to give her some cheese to go with her whine!)
My problems do not lay with her loyal readers and fans in regards if they choose to see the truth concerning her, and believe every word that jumps up from her keyboard reaching readers, and soon possible victims of her. Yet, I expect to see in the future, some of these loyal readers and fans to come out with their own horror stories concerning her. It always has happened in the past, and it should be expected in the future.
Rose, in my opinion and the opinion of many others, exhibits abusive behavior and problems on the Internet. And this behavior has been noted since 2003, that I personally know of. (Maybe before then!) And in my opinion, pretty much anything she writes if full of lies or half truths, or twisting of words to fit her to convince others when questioned, in hopes of satisfying her loyal readers, yet suit her at the same time. She is very good at manipulating, conning and leading others to false grounds.
As far as I am concerned, Rose falls into many behavior problems actually in a blog I wrote awhile back dealing with Abusive behavior problems. I know the blog above in question is long, so I will try and break it down for the readers.
For example:
1. ALIAS ~ "The psychopath troll makes a point in provocative comments in order that emotional responses will be given by others. And many times when responses are given, they challenge the conversation, many times breaking the rules of chat or forum board, therefore being banned, and then cry VICTIM and go back in under a new identity."
Rose goes by many names, and the ones that I am familiar with are:
BubblesR
Swtdesrose
hotheadedbrunette
PoetryWatchDog
DesertRose
WomanOnTop
AngeleEyes
SwtRose
BeautifulSmile
desertrosedreams
PSPAddict
(there could be many more)
When one goes to research or google Rose, in order to find out more about her, these alias need to be in place to find out more about her behavior and true history. Also, the majority of these ALIAS have been banned from many, many sites, especially forums that she disrupted and started flame wars on.
2. BANNED~Concerning being banned, Rose has been banned from numerous forums where the threads are no longer in place and even if you find it in a google search, the thread will not come up as it has been deleted or removed! Since I started my So called trolling on her, I also went through the time and effort to COPY AND PASTE every forum and site I could find (and I am sure I missed some) in relationship concerning her and placed them in the appropriate category and date that I set up within my journal. These threads no longer available consist of of ugly name calling, threats, insults, private messages, etc. to the readers at these forums. (Of course this did not sit well with the readers there and they came back with their own words and complained, which ended up with her being banned!) OK, Rose, not your fault. Sniff, sniff!!
3. FLAME WARS ~ Rose would (and still does) try to start flame wars with others by trying to convince members on forums that certain people or businesses was (were) a scam, run illegally, is bad, beware, etc. etc., without any research what so ever. It never occurred to her to dwell deeper in research of what she might write and report on, but probably just taken off something she read somewhere, and she is OUT to get one from what she read! The other side of the story in question does not matter, as she did not read that story first!! In her process of her fingers hitting the keyboard, she cares nothing about how the outcome might play out of what she reports, or how it might effect and hurt people and businesses at first glance and in the long run. And of course, once the word gets out to the parties in questions that they are trending dark waters from someone unknown to them, (or someone they trusted at first, and then angered by who knows why) they immediately respond to their reputation at stake, defending their personal reputation, or business, and placing themselves before public view before google and all the world to see. CAN YOU BLAME THEM?
For example, a poetry site much like Todays Woman, was in the news at forums for a very long time, due to a battle over and about a link. (I do not want to mention their name, as their lives have finally gone on, regardless of Rose hoping to destroy them.)
Another example is WritersWorld. While it is evident that there may be troubles brewing with them concerning others, I do not believe a word Rose types on her keypad in reports, as the majority of all she does is lies and untruths and twisting of words and truths. At least in my opinion. Besides, I have not heard their side of the story, which is only fair. I do know this, if I google WritersWorld, problems do come up, mostly dealing with Rose. But, if you google Rose, all kinds of problems come up with all kinds of things!!
4. CONTROL ~ Rose wants to be in total control, and if she is not, or things do not go her way, anger sets in with fire! And if one starts her anger, then the phrase we are all familiar with of "Don't get mad, get even" goes into effect and into new heights with her.
For example ~ James Landrith described on his blog here and here his whirl of events with Rose, and doing so, she became angry (or angrier) with him, and actually blogged that he was associated with porn! She used this tactic again with George English at Pooper Scoops. With me, her anger was a different approach, where in hopes to get at me, her only choice was to go after that sells on eBay expressed at Invision Graphics Hall of Shame HERE. (you will have to read all the dribble to find it, so unless you are really interested, don't waste your time, just trust me!) Recently, I heard where she went into a brand new site that had not even opened its doors yet or established itself, yet she took the time to find and hit the survey that it was THE WORST, before it was even open to the public, all because she did not like the person. Sad, so sad!!
Anger seems to come easy to Rose, and if you are brave enough to disagree with her, you need to beware and look out. The effect of rocks may crumble and buildings may fall, enters my mind and opinion!
For example, noted onJames Landriths blog, (and mine as well) she was angry with someone at Fight Bigamy because in an email they did not agree with what she wrote concerning Perverted Justice and how they operate! Rose had actually written a blog in favor of Fight Bigamy, but removed it due to the fact that they did not agree with her on that subject, so, she went so far as to send hateful emails to Fight Bigamy as they did not agree with her!!! GO FIGURE!!! Quoted comments from James Landrith blog, (Links given above)
"Written by OneOfSeven on 2006-06-10 08:06:05
I must agree! She approached my Fighting Bigamy discussion group about doing an article on a National Marriage Database petition we have begun and asked for bigamy victims to write her, telling our story, which some of us did. She wrote the article and received several comments. Yesterday, she emailed me for a comment on a Perverted Justice article she had just written. I responded privately to her (did not comment on the actual article itself) saying I didn’t agree. She insulted my intelligence insinuating I did not read what she had written, and then removed her article about our group and the database. It seems as if you have a different opinion than Rose, you’re in trouble. I wish I had seen these comments and James’ post before I told my members to write to her and give them their stories."
And then from my blog Searching Rose Desrochers from the same person above, as well as others in the comment section! Reading this makes it easier to understand how she operates!
5. CRY VICTIM ~ Rose is a perfect example of crying victim as shown here where the blogger was trying to point out and explain how one can reach the public in blogs in regards in subjects they write about, but she used his blog to cry victim, since he had used her as an example! She then used the same blogger here to try and start a FLAME WAR with little ole me, (or better known to her fans as the head witch) but it did not work. And the blogger in question was right that there was a deeper subject matter in my blog, one more important than he!
Rose also wants to twist facts concerning things she writes on her blogs and other places that are contradicting to her actions found in other ways. For example, she was questioned on why she read private messages, as according to her site of Todays Woman PRIVATE MESSAGES entailed this here "What are private messages? The administrators of Todays-Woman has permit members to send private messages to each other. A private message is not email. Private messages are one-to-one communications that can only be read by the recipient. You can read private messages through your account. You have the option to elect to be notified by email whenever someone sends you a private message (you can set this in your account). This option can be disabled by todays-woman administrators if you abuse this feature. To send someone a private message, look for the private message icon on a post a person creates. You can send a private message through the person's member profile, or from a comment left on your poem/ story or article. To read further about the moderating of private message please read. Do you read my private messages? Please note anyone advertising their business should contact one of the administrators first. Please do not send spam messages through the system to other members asking them to check out your website exc."
Yet changes and then she reports this here concerning PERSONAL MESSAGES and that PM stands for Personal Messages and NOT Private Messages and her reasons behind to make up excuses of what written by her before! And then continues with this blog to make herself clear! OK, I give, I still do not understand PM when it comes to her concerning private or personal messages.
Contridicting herself again where she writes an article concerning never putting Children's pictures on the Internet here , but then has children on her front page at Todays Woman with a excellent group that supports sick children, (do not get me wrong, the site where they are is for an excellent cause, my qualm is she says one thing and then does another, and when questioned on this, responds with they are sick children and predators are not interested, or along that line, so to speak!
Rose wrote in one of her blogs that SEX SELLS!! And so it does!! That is nothing new, especially on the Internet! Yet, according to my research, ROSE DESROCHERS sells if you want your google and page ranks to go up! And while that is nice seeing this on my sitemeter, what my intentions are is to expose Rose for real, and just like anything else, this is a controversial and debatable subject!
I have not even scratched the surface in this blog when it comes to Rose. It would take an entire book to point it all out. (That is in progress also).
I just had to get this off my chest as I do have other things I really want to blog about that are much more important than Rose and her ways. So, hopefully I can leave this alone for awhile and get on to other projects I want to explore and write about. But, I do think she fits very well with my header of my blog of "WHAT LIES BENEATH?"
Katie
Agent's Notes for: 4. MY OPINION OF ROSE DESROCHERS & I'M STICKING TO IT!!!
- Logged in @ Sunday, 01 October, 2006 | By
Daria Black
- Logged in @ Sunday, 01 October, 2006 | By Karen
I don't care if rose comes to my site or not. Heck, she can camp there, for all I care.
I tried my little experiment by saying it made me crazy when she showed up on sitemeter, thinking it was a sure-fire way of getting her to visit. Lo and behold, she popped in a couple times! I knew she would, which is why I made that comment. Spawn and I laughed so hard over that little trick.
Manipulation is an interesting thing, isn't it?
- Logged in @ Monday, 02 October, 2006 | By Morrigan Le Fey
Rose will never change, and that's what will be her undoing. A while back a friend of mine wrote about Karma (she is a firm believer that what goes around comes around) shortly after she had her own slight run-in with Rose, and it all made sense. Rose seems to play nice at first, but as soon as someone voices a different opinion than hers, she flams them until they take cover under a table. When other people bring this to her attention, she plays the victim.
It's sad, really. I feel kind of sorry for her.
- Logged in @ Monday, 02 October, 2006 | By yngathrrt
Ms. Karen, I remember that trick, as you told me in a comment not to be published. So, she still visits every now and then? I agree with Morgan that is it just so upsetting that she is so unfair to people, as well as businesses. Also, I noticed that anytime you write her name it is never capitalized. And yes, Ms. Karen, manipulation is an interesting thing. It reminds me of the recent blog Indigo wrote concern Psychic Vampires. Rose fits well into that description also, in my opinion.
Morgan, it never amazes me that so many people have faced her at some time. Kind of strange for such a large world. I use to feel sorry for her, but the only thing I feel sorry about is people that can and will get hurt by her.
Katie
- Logged in @ Tuesday, 03 October, 2006 | By Fighter
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a former tw member, and glad it's "former"
- Logged in @ Tuesday, 03 October, 2006 | By Karen
Even if I did, I wouldn't capitalize her name there, either! LOL
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- Logged in @ Thursday, 05 October, 2006 | By yngathrrt
Keep in mind that I encouraged readers NOT to link to this blog via their blog in blog roll, as I am concerned that whom I blog on might come after them if angered. If you do make comments that are not Anonymous, do so at your own risk.
Figher, yes Rose is trying to discredit me with twisted words and lies, but that is expected of her behavior. I keep in mind a comfort that people who knows Rose's history of behavior will know this and will be able to realize what is real, or at least question it.
Also, for the record, something else caught my eye today in my daily romps around the Internet, that I thought a little strange. Arrogant Angels blog - Defending Rose Desrochers~http://arrogantangelss.blogspot.com/2006/08/defending-rose-desrochers.html as well as her other blog ~ http://gossiponlineblog.blogspot.com/ both had duplicate comments from Merriam Burke today. What I thought strange was the fact that she also commented on my blog "A PLACE OF HONOR INVISION GRAPHICS", and she had gone through the trouble to create a blog on blogspot just to make a comment on my blog. Yet, on Arrogant Angels blog, her link is not available, just her name in black. Just seemed weird to me. Also, why would she post the same duplicate comment on each blog. Anybody going fishing?
Katie
- Logged in @ Tuesday, 10 October, 2006 | By Morrigan Le Fey
You're right, Katie. I shouldn't feel sorry for her, I should feel sorry for the people who are trapped in her web (no pun intended).
By the way, it seems that she thinks my mom and I are the same person. We have many simularities, but last I checked, we are two very different people. Oh well. I like being 'compared' to my mom. :o)
M
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